D2D: Earn Your Second Doctorate Degree with Just 27 Credits

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  1. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    A book I read the other day referenced a woman, Nancy Vanderheide, Psy.D., Psy.D. Her first PsyD is from Ryokan College in Counseling and Clinical Psychology (1987-1991), the second in psychodynamic therapy, 1997-2002 from the Institute of Contemporary Psychoanalysis.
     
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  2. Messdiener

    Messdiener Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing this, Dustin. I'd not heard of ICP. Taking a quick glance through their site, I stumbled upon this pretty early on:

    "The Institute of Contemporary Psychoanalysis (ICP) is approved by the Bureau of Private Postsecondary Education (BPPE) to operate as an Institution Non-Accredited."

    I wonder what that means for the value of a PsyD from this institute and how it can be used in a clinical setting.
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter because they've suspended new admissions. They've also removed any mention of offering degrees. It looks like they did offer a PsyD in the past.

    I have to think this is due to California's requirement that unaccredited schools get on an accreditation track or shut down. This looks like their way of staying open while they pursue accreditation (or sale, or merger). I'm not sure what the value would be to future students if they cannot pursue a degree and cannot pursue licensure. This looks like an interim status.
     
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  4. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Psychoanalytic training institutes are typically non-degree. This is probably its permanent status, having temporarily expanded into offering a degree in the past.
     
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  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    A reasonable hypothesis, except....

    They suspended enrollments in the program until 2026-27. It seems unusual for a school to decide not to enroll students...permanently.
     
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  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    What value precisely? Those research skills are useful in a variety of occupations. Many people lose money earning a PhD but gain things in brain health, usefulness to employers, ability to contribute to the scientific literature, etc. Those things are the same if you have one PhD or 50,000 awarded each year.
     
  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It is. "The National Graduate School" was actually The National Graduate School of Quality Management. It was regionally accredited and awarded, among a few others, the DBA. It was merged into the New England College of Business (in 2018) which, in turn, was merged into Cambridge College in 2020. The NGS DBA survives.
     
  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Rich. I did a Google search and couldn't find the school. So, I assumed it was some unaccredited institution that went out of business. I appreciate the information.
     
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  11. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  12. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    And Cambridge College is merging into Bay Path University, and here’s the NGS DBA today.
     

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